bootc for Desktops?? Tell me more!

bootc is ridiculously amazing for headless servers – everyone knows that! It’s also a great fit for appliance-style graphical kiosks. What about a daily driver like a desktop or laptop? The TL;DR is it’s amazing, and I thought I’d share my experience.

So clean. So organized. Pro tip: input-leap works great w/ Wayland is seamless for using the same mouse and keyboard across all my systems.

OK, it’s been about three months since I moved my home server to bootc and setup Gitea to automate everything, even my Rasberry Pi. OMG, I love it so much and the setup keeps expanding. I’ve added a number of additional containerized services on my server (photo prism, LMS, Navidrome, etc), upgraded my switches to 2.5Gb, and I have six bootc repos building nine images automatically for a number of different purposes. Anyway, a colleague at work, who’s a bad influence on me, convinced me I need a new desktop. He was so right. My old Intel i7-4770k (Haswell!!!) system was 10 years old and really showing it’s age. Rather than go down the ginormous rabbit hole of PC gear, I decided it was easier/better to, more or less, copy his setup. Thanks Mark! :) I ended up getting:

AMD Ryzen 9 9900x
64G Ram @6000
Asus x670e-f
1TB fast NVME
New power supply & a USB C front panel for the case.
and best of all a new ultra wide monitor (Samsung 34″ S50GC)

A quick aside, I take a lot of pride in being frugal, but my previous monitor was a good example of being too frugal. As soon as I plugged in the new screen, I felt my eyes “sigh” in relief. I never realized how hard my previous screen was on my eyes. This is why you should never repurpose a large, 1080p digital signage screen that you got for free as your main monitor. ….anyway back to the point of this blog.

The Goal:

For some reason I enjoy GNOME on my laptop and KDE on my desktop, and I wanted to stick with this. I’m coming from the rpm-ostree world and essentially I just want the rpms of the OS to be versioned in the container. I rely heavily on flatpaks, toolbox, and podman for my applications and my system looks something like this diagram:

I’m using the default BTRFS partition layout w/ subvolumes for root & home. Basically, everything I need to persist in /var & /home comes pre-configured so virtually no setup is required outside of installing the flatpaks and/or containers and copying my old home directory over.

It all starts with the Containerfile

I started by looking at the Kinoite and Aurora configs for how they were built. I copied a few things from their setups, but not much. As a rule I think it’s important to keep these builds simple, and I don’t need a lot of complexity for my setup. All I’m doing is adding the rpmfusion repos, KDE plus some additional software/packages, and doing a little clean up per Kinoite, and running some of the rpmfusion multimedia setup instructions. It really didn’t take a lot of time.

FROM quay.io/fedora/fedora-bootc:40

#copy configs
COPY etc etc
RUN mkdir -p /var/roothome /data

#install rpmfusion
RUN dnf install -y https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

#install & configure packages
RUN dnf groupinstall -y "KDE Plasma Workspaces" && \
	dnf install -y bash-completion bcache-tools bwm-ng cockpit cockpit-podman cockpit-storaged cockpit-ws cockpit-pcp cockpit-podman cockpit-machines cockpit-selinux cups cups-browsed dmraid ethtool firefox firewalld fuse-exfat fwupd gamemode gdb git htop input-leap kamera k3b libvirt-daemon lm_sensors nfs-utils nss-mdns pcp pcp-selinux powertop qemu-kvm samba sysstat thermald tuned vim-enhanced virt-install virt-manager vulkan-tools xdpyinfo wget && \
	dnf remove -y plasma-discover-offline-updates plasma-discover-packagekit plasma-pk-updates tracker tracker-miners plasma-x11 plasma-workspace-x11 && \
	dnf swap -y ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing && dnf update -y @multimedia --setopt="install_weak_deps=False" --exclude=PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin && dnf groupinstall -y "Sound and Video" && dnf swap -y mesa-va-drivers mesa-va-drivers-freeworld && dnf swap -y mesa-vdpau-drivers mesa-vdpau-drivers-freeworld

#configure unit files
RUN systemctl enable lm_sensors sysstat tuned fstrim.timer podman.socket podman-auto-update.timer cockpit.socket libvirtd.socket && \
systemctl set-default graphical.target

Build & Test

It took me about four builds to land on the set of packages, and it was really easy to deploy a VM to give it a quick sanity test. This helped speed up the real install and pass the time while Amazon shipped the hardware. Dropping it into a Gitea repo and scheduling regular builds was a breeze.

Notice the insane performance increase when the new system is used for container builds. Amazing!!

Anaconda ❤️ Bare metal

Just like with my server I decided to use Anaconda to provision the container. What I learned from the last attempt is that if you supply a kickstart with only the ostreecontainer command, then you get a perfect interactive installation experience. My kickstart was one line:

ostreecontainer --url [my_registry]/workstation-bootc:latest

This is ideal for one-off systems like this where it doesn’t makes sense to iron out things like partitioning details. After following the basic anaconda spokes for users, disks, & networking, my system was up and running very fast.

I forgot to take a final picture. This is the old power supply that worked for ~4 hours on the new mobo/CPU before it gave up and died.

Final Thoughts

If you’re wondering if you should do this for your setup, the answer is a solid maybe. For a lot of people, I suspect they will be better served by “outsourcing” a lot of this to their OS vendor. This is basically the goal of all the Fedora Atomic Desktops and/or Universal Blue. If you like the idea of an immutable desktop, I recommend most people start there. Those also allow containerfile semantics to augment the images. With my experiment, I wanted to answer the “can I?” “should I?” questions, and for me, this is a no-brainer. A lot of that comes down to just how easy this is to pull off, automate w/ git, and change/adapt the setup as my needs change. So if you have access to github, gitlab, etc and you like this idea, then you can & should check it out.

Miscellaneous thoughts in no particular order:

bootc and git SCALE. I know I only have ~6 repos building, but all the work is done by robots and I literally don’t think about it.
After doing this for a brief time on my desktop, I would be completely comfortable using the same setup on my work laptop.
I expect to periodically add/change the RPMs and I love the fact that I’ll have a complete GIT audit trail. Another bonus is I can easily just “move” this setup to any system (thank you borg+vorta for handling my /home dir).
I’ve never had a system this fast & powerful and I absolutely love it. I don’t feel the need to upgrade to every CPU generation, but I’m starting to think 5-6 years is the sweet spot for me. Waiting 10 year was a mistake.
Ultra-wide monitors are where it’s at – what have I been doing with my life!!!!!
I hate thermal paste and seating heat syncs
I like that gamers keep PC going and keep aesthetics in mind, but …..do we really need LEDs on everything here? Let me answer that. We don’t!

Thanks for hanging out; I hope this is helpful/interesting to others.

UPDATE to Fedora 41 October 29th 2024

OK, so I’ve been loving this setup for a couple weeks and Fedora 41 just shipped today. I was hoping that all I would have to change in my containerfile was the image tag to :41. DNF5 didn’t like a couple of my commands and cockpit-pcp isn’t in the repos anymore. It was super fast to update my commands. Once those ran fine inside a container, I just committed/pushed my changes and ran sudo bootc upgrade --apply for a flawless upgrade. It’s amazing!

Here’s the updated file – I want to stress it was really easy to get here. Enjoy!

FROM quay.io/fedora/fedora-bootc:41

#copy configs
COPY etc etc
RUN mkdir -p /var/roothome /data

#install rpmfusion
RUN dnf install -y https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

#install & configure packages
RUN dnf group install -y "KDE Plasma Workspaces" && \
	dnf install -y --skip-unavailable bash-completion bcache-tools bwm-ng cockpit cockpit-podman cockpit-storaged cockpit-ws cockpit-pcp cockpit-podman cockpit-machines cockpit-selinux cups cups-browsed dmraid ethtool firefox firewalld fuse-exfat fwupd gamemode gdb git htop input-leap kamera k3b libvirt-daemon lm_sensors nfs-utils nss-mdns pcp pcp-selinux powertop qemu-kvm samba sysstat thermald tuned vim-enhanced virt-install virt-manager vulkan-tools xdpyinfo wget && \
	dnf remove -y plasma-discover-offline-updates plasma-discover-packagekit plasma-pk-updates tracker tracker-miners plasma-x11 plasma-workspace-x11 && \
	dnf swap -y ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing && dnf update -y @multimedia --setopt="install_weak_deps=False" --exclude=PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin && dnf group install -y sound-and-video" && dnf swap -y mesa-va-drivers mesa-va-drivers-freeworld && dnf swap -y mesa-vdpau-drivers mesa-vdpau-drivers-freeworld

#configure unit files
RUN systemctl enable lm_sensors sysstat tuned fstrim.timer podman.socket podman-auto-update.timer cockpit.socket libvirtd.socket && \
systemctl set-default graphical.target